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Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:15 am
by Dawg
I actually went to huffington post so slick would believe the authenticity of this

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/0 ... 83610.html
WASHINGTON (AP) — An internal investigation issued Wednesday found that the Environmental Protection Agency failed to disclose long-term cancer risks and a small chance of death to 81 human test subjects who consented to breathe in diesel exhaust and other pollutants during experiments.

The inspector general's report released said that at least some people participating in five studies conducted in 2010 and 2011 would like to have known whether a study involves a chance of death, no matter how small.

well.........ok, thats Huff's reporting
digging into a hateful group we find this

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/02/repor ... ns-agenda/
The Environmental Protection Agency has been conducting dangerous experiments on humans over the past few years in order to justify more onerous clean air regulations.

The agency conducted tests on people with health issues and the elderly, exposing them to high levels of potentially lethal pollutants, without disclosing the risks of cancer and death, according to a newly released government report.

These experiments exposed people, including those with asthma and heart problems, to dangerously high levels of toxic pollutants, including diesel fumes, reads a EPA inspector general report obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation. The EPA also exposed people with health issues to levels of pollutants up to 50 times greater than the agency says is safe for humans.

The EPA conducted five experiments in 2010 and 2011 to look at the health effects of particulate matter, or PM, and diesel exhaust on humans. The IG’s report found that the EPA did get consent forms from 81 people in five studies. But the IG also found that “exposure risks were not always consistently represented.”

“Further, the EPA did not include information on long-term cancer risks in its diesel exhaust studies’ consent forms,” the IG’s report noted. “An EPA manager considered these long-term risks minimal for short-term study exposures” but “human subjects were not informed of this risk in the consent form.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4 the reality, well, HIS reality EPA is the tool to make this happen.

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:09 am
by Pudfark
Wow....Impressive !!
Finally....a post other'n mine with relevant facts, supporting evidence and a link...Christmas has come early. :D

Thank You.

Seems like every three letter federal agency at Obama's "disposal" has been abused, misused, conducted criminal conduct and unconscionable Constitutional violations. That's a good example of the Obama legacy, "the end justifies the means and the hell with the law".

Good find. 8-)

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:08 pm
by callmeslick
inexcusable study. The second piece is the usual, predictable jump-to-conclusions. So, Dawg, would you admit that every administration does things which are wrong, even inexcusable? If so, then, why focus on Obama for the matter of a rather smallish group of EPA studies. If not, how on earth can you make such a claim?

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:15 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:inexcusable study. The second piece is the usual, predictable jump-to-conclusions. So, Dawg, would you admit that every administration does things which are wrong, even inexcusable? If so, then, why focus on Obama for the matter of a rather smallish group of EPA studies. If not, how on earth can you make such a claim?
Just compare the last five years to the previous eight years preceding Obama. 8-)
Waiting.....for it. :)

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:46 pm
by callmeslick
admittedly, no comparison. The egregious, obscene violations of the prior administration in foreign policy, use of military, lying to the public to justify a war, and ignoring most environmental issues to the point of criminality make it hard to see much wrong at all from the current admin. Still, I admit that Obama's admin is not perfect. But, for instance, the example that Dawg cites here is bureaucratic in nature. Let's face it, at no time did discussion of this study cross Obama's desk. Being President doesn't work that way.

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:01 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:admittedly, no comparison. The egregious, obscene violations of the prior administration in foreign policy, use of military, lying to the public to justify a war, and ignoring most environmental issues to the point of criminality make it hard to see much wrong at all from the current admin. Still, I admit that Obama's admin is not perfect. But, for instance, the example that Dawg cites here is bureaucratic in nature. Let's face it, at no time did discussion of this study cross Obama's desk. Being President doesn't work that way.
The only work "Barry" has done is "running" for office..."running his mouth"..."running from his responsibilities and truth". Kenyan's have a history....of "running"....and being good at it.

Old Pudfark sez: " The truth is in the putting/pudding/Putin.... " ;)

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:07 pm
by callmeslick
let's do the math: a handful of people put at risk by a badly designed EPA study vs. literally millions with better health coverage, and thus, better healthcare thanks to a program Obama actually did get involved in designing. Yeah, I'd say the balance falls the President's way on this one.

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:35 pm
by Pudfark
You sure are windy...today. :P

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:14 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
Pudfark wrote:with relevant facts, supporting evidence and a link...
You wouldn't recognize relevant facts, supporting evidence or a link if it dropped it's dick into your mouth.

But this is going to be a highly entertaining thread.
I see what you did there, Dawg. Well done.

Re: Obamas EPA testing on human subjects

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:12 pm
by Pudfark
R_D...the only thing you know about a link?
Is?
You're the "missing" one. :lol:

Old Pudfark sez: " Pop goes the weasel "