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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:51 am
by Pudfark
Federals Appeals Court Delivers Serious Setback To Obama Health Care Law

WASHINGTON (AP) — Federal appeals court delivers serious setback to Obama health care law.

Posted: 07/22/2014 10:25 am EDT Updated: 10 minutes ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/2 ... 09440.html

:lol: Yup, folks that's the whole article....thank goodness, they updated it for R_D.

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:40 am
by Pudfark
Then we have this for comparison purposes.....

Federal appeals court invalidates some ObamaCare subsidies, in blow to health law

By Barnini ChakrabortyPublished July 22, 2014FoxNews.com

WASHINGTON – A powerful federal appeals court dealt a major blow to ObamaCare on Tuesday, ruling against the legality of some subsidies issued to people through the Affordable Care Act exchanges.

Though the ruling is likely to be appealed, the decision threatens to gut the foundation of the law by potentially nixing subsidies that millions of people obtained through the federally run exchange known as HealthCare.gov.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled 2-1 that the IRS went too far in extending subsidies to those who buy insurance through that website.

The suit maintained that the language in ObamaCare actually restricts subsidies to state-run exchanges -- of which there are only 14 -- and does not authorize them to be given in the 36 states that use the federally run system.

The court agreed.

“We reach this conclusion, frankly, with reluctance. At least until states that wish to can set up Exchanges, our ruling will likely have significant consequences both for the millions of individuals receiving tax credits through federal Exchanges and for health insurance markets more broadly,” the ruling stated.

The case, Halbig v Burwell, is one of the first major legal challenges that cuts to the heart of the Affordable Care Act by going after the legality of massive federal subsidies and those who benefit from them.

“This case is about Appellants’ not-so-veiled attempt to gut the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (“ACA”),” the dissent opinion stated.

The ruling, though likely to be appealed, could threaten the entire foundation of the newly devised health care system. Nearly 90 percent of the federal exchange’s insurance enrollees were eligible for subsidies because of low or moderate incomes, and the outcome of the case could potentially leave millions without affordable health insurance.

The next step for the Obama administration would be that they request an en banc ruling, which means there would be a vote taken by all of the judges on the court. An appeals court can only overrule a decision made by a panel if the court is sitting en banc.

“Today’s decision represents the high-water mark for Affordable Care Act opponents, but the water will recede very quickly,” Ron Pollack, founding executive director of Families USA, said in a written statement.

Pollack added, “It will inevitably be placed on hold pending further proceedings; will probably be reheard by all of the 11-member active D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals members, who predictably will reverse it; and runs contrary to an expected ruling on a similar case in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.”

The appeals process could eventually lead to the U.S. Supreme Court deciding on the legality of the subsidies, but Pollack, whose group supports the law, believes that won’t happen.

Of the 11 judges that could rehear the case, seven are Democrats and four are Republicans.

Halbig v.Burwell, which had been previously called Halbig v. Sebelius, is one of four federal lawsuits that have been filed aimed at targeting the idea of tax credits and other subsidies afforded under ObamaCare.

A total of $1 trillion in subsidies is projected to be doled out over the next decade.

A U.S. District Court previously sided with the Obama administration on Jan. 15.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07 ... to-health/

There ya have it....the NEWS.
8-)

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:57 am
by callmeslick
so, a 3 judge panel voted 2-1, all experts expect it to be overturned, the SCOTUS hasn't ever shown any issue with the matter. Case closed.

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:36 pm
by callmeslick
by the way, this ruling justs moves the nation a step closer to Cradle To Grave Medicare. Enough of the legal nit-picking, variety of exchanges, etc. The critical mass of the public will support it, Hillary or whoever the Dems put up in 2016 will run on it and win.

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:48 pm
by callmeslick
that didn't take long(source:AP 2PM EDT)
"About 100 miles (160 km) to the south in Richmond, Virginia, another appeals court panel unanimously came to the opposite conclusion, ruling that the Internal Revenue Service correctly interpreted the will of Congress when it issued regulations allowing consumers in all 50 states to purchase subsidized coverage."

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:50 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:by the way, this ruling justs moves the nation a step closer to Cradle To Grave Medicare. Enough of the legal nit-picking, variety of exchanges, etc. The critical mass of the public will support it, Hillary or whoever the Dems put up in 2016 will run on it and win.

The "critical mass"?
:lol:
What ever happened to "vast majority"?
Oh, it don't apply anymore.... ;)

Mercy it is fun watching Dem folks....ease their little feet's/fete's into the cesspool of American politics...

Even you...have no/know idea what y'all gonna do? I see it as more of...who is gonna take the butt humping for Obama and the Democrat Party Policies....and it don't seem like Hillary is going to be it?
All the crap you've "bandied" about here....over the last more than several years?
Seems y'all ain't learned nothing....cuz, if'n ya had applied, what ya accused....other's of?
You wouldn't be sportin'/wearin' that same...."pickle", that you're now, in.

;)

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:52 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:that didn't take long(source:AP 2PM EDT)
"About 100 miles (160 km) to the south in Richmond, Virginia, another appeals court panel unanimously came to the opposite conclusion, ruling that the Internal Revenue Service correctly interpreted the will of Congress when it issued regulations allowing consumers in all 50 states to purchase subsidized coverage."
How's that apply to U.S. Territories?
I know, you know the answer....
It just opens up more challenges in the SCOTUS.
:)

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:08 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:
callmeslick wrote:by the way, this ruling justs moves the nation a step closer to Cradle To Grave Medicare. Enough of the legal nit-picking, variety of exchanges, etc. The critical mass of the public will support it, Hillary or whoever the Dems put up in 2016 will run on it and win.

The "critical mass"?
:lol:
What ever happened to "vast majority"?
same thing....I call the Critical Mass a supermajority. At least 65 percent of all Americans look upon Universal Coverage favorably.

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:08 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:
callmeslick wrote:that didn't take long(source:AP 2PM EDT)
"About 100 miles (160 km) to the south in Richmond, Virginia, another appeals court panel unanimously came to the opposite conclusion, ruling that the Internal Revenue Service correctly interpreted the will of Congress when it issued regulations allowing consumers in all 50 states to purchase subsidized coverage."
How's that apply to U.S. Territories?
I know, you know the answer....
It just opens up more challenges in the SCOTUS.
:)
which already had the chance to weigh in on it, and didn't.

Re: Sources/Resources

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:21 pm
by Pudfark
yer intentionally "missing" the disparity. ;)