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good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:34 pm
by callmeslick
....we're not all nuts in this nation. Recent CNN/Opinion Dynamics polling showed:
Eighty-one percent of people questioned in the poll say they support creating a program that would allow illegal immigrants already living in the U.S. for a number of years to stay here and apply to legally remain in this country permanently if they had a job and paid back taxes, with 19 percent opposed to such a plan.
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:40 pm
by CUDA
I would not be un-opposed to this.
PROVIDED
1.they have been in the country at least 10 years, and I dont care if they have an Anchor baby.
2.they have had steady employment over that time period. show me you can contribute to this society
3.they pay any back taxes owed.
4.they have no criminal records. not even a parking ticket
5.they take and pass a US citizenship test just like those that have put out the effort to come here legally.
6.they take mandatory ENGLISH classes
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:42 pm
by Pudfark
How about throwing a link out.....and when was the poll taken? Where? Was it at a La Raza meeting?
Old Pudfark sez: " Slick, I can tell when you're teasing..... "
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:49 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:How about throwing a link out.....and when was the poll taken?
July 16-22, 2010
Where? Was it at a La Raza meeting?
um, no. Actually, Hispanic breakdown was 76-24, Blacks around 80-20, and Whites around 90-10 in favor.
Oh, and the poll was 1800 or so Adult American citizens.
Links? Just go to CNN.com.
Old Pudfark sez: " Slick, I can tell when you're teasing..... "
I doubt that.
edited, for the truly stupid, who have to ask for links after they've already been posted.
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:54 pm
by Daiichidoku
problem is, stats lie
could easily see a poll that shows opposite results, depends where, when, and how the sampling is conducted, including profiling, and suggestion, among others
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:00 pm
by callmeslick
Daiichidoku wrote:problem is, stats lie
could easily see a poll that shows opposite results, depends where, when, and how the sampling is conducted, including profiling, and suggestion, among others
actually, this question polls pretty consistently over time. CNN's Opinion Dyamics has tracked it at about the same levels, statistically for a couple years, at least. OD does a pretty good job of sampling in my experience.
Key to the results are the caveats about working and taxes. Most polls that throw that in come out about 80-20 in favor, consistently. Cuda's detailed caveats reflect most of us.
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:01 pm
by Daiichidoku
CUDA wrote:5.they take and pass a US citizenship test just like those that have put out the effort to come here legally.
with or without actually being granted citizenship status?
i imagine you guys have a form of permenent resident visa? does the premise specify what the case would be in this regard, exactly?
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:02 pm
by callmeslick
CUDA wrote:I would not be un-opposed to this.
PROVIDED
1.they have been in the country at least 10 years, and I dont care if they have an Anchor baby.
2.they have had steady employment over that time period. show me you can contribute to this society
3.they pay any back taxes owed.
4.they have no criminal records. not even a parking ticket
5.they take and pass a US citizenship test just like those that have put out the effort to come here legally.
6.they take mandatory ENGLISH classes
agree with all of these except #5. Other immigrants don't HAVE to apply for citizenship to work here.
Note: I see this one struck Daii as well. Not bad for a Canuck.

Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:17 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:Pudfark wrote:How about throwing a link out.....and when was the poll taken?
July 16-22, 2010
Where? Was it at a La Raza meeting?
um, no. Actually, Hispanic breakdown was 76-24, Blacks around 80-20, and Whites around 90-10 in favor.
Oh, and the poll was 1800 or so Adult American citizens. Links? Just go to CNN.com.
Old Pudfark sez: " Slick, I can tell when you're teasing..... "
I doubt that.
All of that? No Link?
Old Pudfark sez: " Slick...you're still teasing... "
Re: good to see....
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:18 pm
by callmeslick
CNN.com, Rube. It's not all that obscure, unless one is truly as dumb as a brick. How many times do you want me to post it?